I was disappointed with the fact that these discs were made in china and felt like restamps of other products. Falcor had a sticker on bottom that made stated "D2, made in china" indicating that its based on D2 mold and made in china, this doesnt scream quality to me personally.
Stryder feels VERY similar to M model S but you pray a steeper price for it even tho its made in china also.